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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2009/05/20/beware-the-pr-prophets/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent analogy. that illustrates well the way I think will be best moving forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent analogy. that illustrates well the way I think will be best moving forward.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2009/05/20/beware-the-pr-prophets/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by. The second to last paragraph specifically used the word prophet, but the entire post was about being cautious about a specific suggestion by some of the prophets.

To clarify, Edward was NOT the prophet I was refuting. I agree with his statement. His comment reminded me that some others are suggesting a gate-wide-open mentality, which I disagree with. So I wanted to bring that up.

I&#039;ll give a more general post on the topic some thought, but, to be honest, the message would be the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by. The second to last paragraph specifically used the word prophet, but the entire post was about being cautious about a specific suggestion by some of the prophets.</p>
<p>To clarify, Edward was NOT the prophet I was refuting. I agree with his statement. His comment reminded me that some others are suggesting a gate-wide-open mentality, which I disagree with. So I wanted to bring that up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give a more general post on the topic some thought, but, to be honest, the message would be the same.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2009/05/20/beware-the-pr-prophets/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd, I&#039;d recommend that you re-read the post. I believe based on others&#039; comments here that I was clearly not advocating for gatekeeper-rampant, one-way communications pushed out to the masses. Or hiding executives from journalists. If you think it&#039;s a great idea that 60 minutes call your CEO directly with no forewarning, then we&#039;ll have to disagree.

The reason a Domino&#039;s executive made the plea is that it should have been made by an executive. I&#039;d have recommended the same thing. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Domino&#039;s internal PR people recommended the same thing. People would rather hear from the executive than the PR person in a situation like that. BUT, you&#039;re crazy if you think that wasn&#039;t a strategic decision or that the message wasn&#039;t at least discussed ahead of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, I&#8217;d recommend that you re-read the post. I believe based on others&#8217; comments here that I was clearly not advocating for gatekeeper-rampant, one-way communications pushed out to the masses. Or hiding executives from journalists. If you think it&#8217;s a great idea that 60 minutes call your CEO directly with no forewarning, then we&#8217;ll have to disagree.</p>
<p>The reason a Domino&#8217;s executive made the plea is that it should have been made by an executive. I&#8217;d have recommended the same thing. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Domino&#8217;s internal PR people recommended the same thing. People would rather hear from the executive than the PR person in a situation like that. BUT, you&#8217;re crazy if you think that wasn&#8217;t a strategic decision or that the message wasn&#8217;t at least discussed ahead of time.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2009/05/20/beware-the-pr-prophets/#comment-2531</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, as noted in the post. As I was thinking about how much the industry will change moving forward to eliminate those barriers, though, it reminded me of some of the claims I&#039;ve seen from others who claim PR people should get completely out of the way. That&#039;s what prompted this post.

Thanks for sharing your insights, as always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, as noted in the post. As I was thinking about how much the industry will change moving forward to eliminate those barriers, though, it reminded me of some of the claims I&#8217;ve seen from others who claim PR people should get completely out of the way. That&#8217;s what prompted this post.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your insights, as always!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought up a great analogy for this: You should stretch a net across a river. That&#039;s the kind of system  you want to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought up a great analogy for this: You should stretch a net across a river. That&#8217;s the kind of system  you want to use.</p>
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		<title>By: RockstarJen</title>
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		<dc:creator>RockstarJen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you can still manage information while being transparent. Public companies, for one, would be in a real world of hurt, in many ways, if they told everything.

And what about competitive info, or negotiations behind the scenes? Some of this information maybe be &quot;interesting&quot; or &quot;fun&quot; for consumers and media to learn, but it also means the brand in question won&#039;t be around long.

Public relations has always been about common sense. Anyone who is on either polar points of gatekeeper vs. foodgate isn&#039;t using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you can still manage information while being transparent. Public companies, for one, would be in a real world of hurt, in many ways, if they told everything.</p>
<p>And what about competitive info, or negotiations behind the scenes? Some of this information maybe be &#8220;interesting&#8221; or &#8220;fun&#8221; for consumers and media to learn, but it also means the brand in question won&#8217;t be around long.</p>
<p>Public relations has always been about common sense. Anyone who is on either polar points of gatekeeper vs. foodgate isn&#8217;t using it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Sprenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Sprenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, David!

I think you - and Heather and others commenting here - hit it on the head when we say that we have to do what we feel is in the best interests of our business, or our client.  Being completely open and transparent may only be a recommended strategy for a fraction of companies - and rarely, if ever, for private companies.  But ultimately it depends on one&#039;s unique situation what they should do from a SM perspective.

It bears repeating again - social media is simply a tool in the PR person&#039;s arsenal.  It&#039;s a means to an end.  It&#039;s not the end-all, be-all strategy.  In the best cases, social media is part of a larger, integrated marketing strategy to advance a company and a brand.  I think we find that the approach we take with social media is defined as much or more by the other components of the bigger picture as anything else.  

@JasonSprenger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, David!</p>
<p>I think you &#8211; and Heather and others commenting here &#8211; hit it on the head when we say that we have to do what we feel is in the best interests of our business, or our client.  Being completely open and transparent may only be a recommended strategy for a fraction of companies &#8211; and rarely, if ever, for private companies.  But ultimately it depends on one&#8217;s unique situation what they should do from a SM perspective.</p>
<p>It bears repeating again &#8211; social media is simply a tool in the PR person&#8217;s arsenal.  It&#8217;s a means to an end.  It&#8217;s not the end-all, be-all strategy.  In the best cases, social media is part of a larger, integrated marketing strategy to advance a company and a brand.  I think we find that the approach we take with social media is defined as much or more by the other components of the bigger picture as anything else.  </p>
<p>@JasonSprenger</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post David – excellent and important points.  Many practitioners of the new age of online marketing and social media are eager to denounce the tenets of traditional PR, and quick to label us practitioners as old school. Some often liberally tack the title of “PR” onto their own resumes even though they’ve never done true PR in their lives.

Yes – your post hit a nerve in me.  Fortunately we have a lot of great new tools to work with to help our clients and companies get their messages out.  It’s true we have to move faster than ever before to keep up with the speed of online conversation.  The tones of the messages have changed as well, as we speak not only to journalists but to consumers as well.  Thanks to the viral nature of the Internet, this means it’s more important than ever before to make sure the message is accurate and appropriate. That’s what my and my staff’s job is and hopefully the reporters we work hard to please will recognize that. We’ve never considered ourselves gatekeepers; rather we shape, refine and disseminate the most pertinent information to make it easier for anyone to deliver factual news to their readers or viewers. Recommending that a company throw caution to the wind without key messages or control creates a very dangerous opportunity for misinformation to be propelled across the Web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post David – excellent and important points.  Many practitioners of the new age of online marketing and social media are eager to denounce the tenets of traditional PR, and quick to label us practitioners as old school. Some often liberally tack the title of “PR” onto their own resumes even though they’ve never done true PR in their lives.</p>
<p>Yes – your post hit a nerve in me.  Fortunately we have a lot of great new tools to work with to help our clients and companies get their messages out.  It’s true we have to move faster than ever before to keep up with the speed of online conversation.  The tones of the messages have changed as well, as we speak not only to journalists but to consumers as well.  Thanks to the viral nature of the Internet, this means it’s more important than ever before to make sure the message is accurate and appropriate. That’s what my and my staff’s job is and hopefully the reporters we work hard to please will recognize that. We’ve never considered ourselves gatekeepers; rather we shape, refine and disseminate the most pertinent information to make it easier for anyone to deliver factual news to their readers or viewers. Recommending that a company throw caution to the wind without key messages or control creates a very dangerous opportunity for misinformation to be propelled across the Web.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Trivitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Trivitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, again (like a lot of times), I certainly agree with most of your points in this post. Coming from more of a media relations background that was in sports (you want to talk about NOT fully disclosing all information, go work in a sports PR environment), I fully understand the need to be open and transparent with journalists in order to get the best possible angle and message about your brand/client/coaches, etc. out there, without giving up too much information that may jeopardize a pending deal or some other confidential matter. 

The one thing I would also tell the coaches and teams that I represented is that yes, you do need to be as upfront and as honest as you can with a journalist. But that doesn&#039;t mean you have to tell them everything you&#039;ve ever learned, or everything that is currently going on with your team. 

The same principles, I believe, apply for more corporate/agency PR settings. Give your users/consumers and journalists access, but don&#039;t feel inclined to always give them every last bit of information that you have. Because you are definitely right, journalists don&#039;t have your brand&#039;s best interests in mind, and if you give them all the dirt, they are going to print it. As always, use a little bit of common sense. It works wonders. 

@KeithTrivitt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, again (like a lot of times), I certainly agree with most of your points in this post. Coming from more of a media relations background that was in sports (you want to talk about NOT fully disclosing all information, go work in a sports PR environment), I fully understand the need to be open and transparent with journalists in order to get the best possible angle and message about your brand/client/coaches, etc. out there, without giving up too much information that may jeopardize a pending deal or some other confidential matter. </p>
<p>The one thing I would also tell the coaches and teams that I represented is that yes, you do need to be as upfront and as honest as you can with a journalist. But that doesn&#8217;t mean you have to tell them everything you&#8217;ve ever learned, or everything that is currently going on with your team. </p>
<p>The same principles, I believe, apply for more corporate/agency PR settings. Give your users/consumers and journalists access, but don&#8217;t feel inclined to always give them every last bit of information that you have. Because you are definitely right, journalists don&#8217;t have your brand&#8217;s best interests in mind, and if you give them all the dirt, they are going to print it. As always, use a little bit of common sense. It works wonders. </p>
<p>@KeithTrivitt</p>
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		<title>By: Helena Makhotlova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helena Makhotlova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is in fact un-ever-ending discussion about what is the role of PR in an organisation. I fulheartedly agree with the comment above, but I think we both know that it&#039;s NOT what PR is, in theory. 

PR academics want us to believe that main function of PR in an organisation, is serving societal interests, and making management to change so that these interests can be, in fact, served. Yea, I was very surprised myself, when I learned it. 

PR is probably one of the most difficult to define  professions out there. I don&#039;t think there are any straightforward answers to your question, David. It really depends on the perspective, and probably the case too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is in fact un-ever-ending discussion about what is the role of PR in an organisation. I fulheartedly agree with the comment above, but I think we both know that it&#8217;s NOT what PR is, in theory. </p>
<p>PR academics want us to believe that main function of PR in an organisation, is serving societal interests, and making management to change so that these interests can be, in fact, served. Yea, I was very surprised myself, when I learned it. </p>
<p>PR is probably one of the most difficult to define  professions out there. I don&#8217;t think there are any straightforward answers to your question, David. It really depends on the perspective, and probably the case too.</p>
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