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	<title>Comments on: Should Marketers and Media Wield Their Power for Good?</title>
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		<title>By: My Inspiration Shared for 20081009 at one little cog</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>My Inspiration Shared for 20081009 at one little cog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] happened to over hear Sonny Gill retweet David Mullen&#8217;s call for marketers and media to wield their power for good. I guess it&#8217;s a struggle and burden that all marketing people have to carry because typically [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] happened to over hear Sonny Gill retweet David Mullen&#8217;s call for marketers and media to wield their power for good. I guess it&#8217;s a struggle and burden that all marketing people have to carry because typically [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Iggy</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave

Really enjoyed this piece - keep em coming!

Cheers, Iggy</description>
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<p>Really enjoyed this piece &#8211; keep em coming!</p>
<p>Cheers, Iggy</p>
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		<title>By: PRJack</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>PRJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@amber I see none of the issues that many folks have over the whole Unilever/Dove/Axe thing. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s wrong - nor is it unusual - that &#039;conglomerate style&#039; holding companies that own multiple brands should allow those brands to each pursue their own marketing niche. These brands act as independent entities, have their own marketing goals and their own budgets.

So in essence, A Dove campaign is done by Dove, not by Unilever. Ditto for Axe. Unilever&#039;s campaigns are likely limited to CSR and other corporate/public affairs/financial things, not the promotion of individual brands.

I think the only &#039;fault&#039; with Unilever is that they&#039;ve been so transparent with this. And that&#039;s actually refreshing. There are countless examples of Brands acting in what would seem like opposing ways yet nothing is said about the parent company that owns both. Unilever chose to expose the man behind the curtain, and while that has had some criticizing them one can&#039;t fault their attempt to a) be honest and b) allow their brands to act independently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@amber I see none of the issues that many folks have over the whole Unilever/Dove/Axe thing. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong &#8211; nor is it unusual &#8211; that &#8216;conglomerate style&#8217; holding companies that own multiple brands should allow those brands to each pursue their own marketing niche. These brands act as independent entities, have their own marketing goals and their own budgets.</p>
<p>So in essence, A Dove campaign is done by Dove, not by Unilever. Ditto for Axe. Unilever&#8217;s campaigns are likely limited to CSR and other corporate/public affairs/financial things, not the promotion of individual brands.</p>
<p>I think the only &#8216;fault&#8217; with Unilever is that they&#8217;ve been so transparent with this. And that&#8217;s actually refreshing. There are countless examples of Brands acting in what would seem like opposing ways yet nothing is said about the parent company that owns both. Unilever chose to expose the man behind the curtain, and while that has had some criticizing them one can&#8217;t fault their attempt to a) be honest and b) allow their brands to act independently.</p>
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		<title>By: davidmullen</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>davidmullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kristin - i agree on targeting our humanity instead of insecurities, but that&#039;s probably because I&#039;m a softy sometimes. :)

@Amber - You&#039;ve brought up a great point of contradiction. The AXE commercials were brought up as an example in the discussion with friends, too.

I&#039;m sure that each brand probably has it&#039;s on marketing team. I think that a decision would have to be made on the Unilever level that said &quot;our marketing, in whatever form it takes, will empower, inspire, etc.&quot; Of course, the AXE marcomm team would cry out that sex is what inspires teenage boys. (they&#039;re probably right, too) So should we give companies like Unilever a break because different messages are driven to different audiences?

What I come back to is that it&#039;s a much bigger problem to solve than we realize. And we are influenced by so many channels - music videos, music, TV, gossip mags, etc. - that it seems like an overwhelming problem to tackle. But it&#039;s important to recognize and understand that the onslaught is happening not only because of how it effects our perceptions of self, but also the effects it has on our relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kristin &#8211; i agree on targeting our humanity instead of insecurities, but that&#8217;s probably because I&#8217;m a softy sometimes. <img src='http://www.davidwmullen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Amber &#8211; You&#8217;ve brought up a great point of contradiction. The AXE commercials were brought up as an example in the discussion with friends, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that each brand probably has it&#8217;s on marketing team. I think that a decision would have to be made on the Unilever level that said &#8220;our marketing, in whatever form it takes, will empower, inspire, etc.&#8221; Of course, the AXE marcomm team would cry out that sex is what inspires teenage boys. (they&#8217;re probably right, too) So should we give companies like Unilever a break because different messages are driven to different audiences?</p>
<p>What I come back to is that it&#8217;s a much bigger problem to solve than we realize. And we are influenced by so many channels &#8211; music videos, music, TV, gossip mags, etc. &#8211; that it seems like an overwhelming problem to tackle. But it&#8217;s important to recognize and understand that the onslaught is happening not only because of how it effects our perceptions of self, but also the effects it has on our relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber Naslund</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber Naslund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big fan of the Dove campaign, but also flummoxed at times because it&#039;s done by Unilever. They&#039;re the same folks doing the commercials for the AXE men&#039;s products that are basically promoting the use this = get laid mentality. So I find that a little contradictory.

So that begs the question: is it ok for a single company with many brands to put out conflicting messages? Do the men not need the empowerment, or is this a different *kind* of empowerment rooted in base sexuality? Isn&#039;t that perpetuating stereotypes?

I&#039;m ALL for messaging that empowers, inspires, and moves people in positive directions, and I do really like this campaign. I just have moments of pause realizing that many faces can be worn by a single company, even if some of them are the very essence of good (and others not so much).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of the Dove campaign, but also flummoxed at times because it&#8217;s done by Unilever. They&#8217;re the same folks doing the commercials for the AXE men&#8217;s products that are basically promoting the use this = get laid mentality. So I find that a little contradictory.</p>
<p>So that begs the question: is it ok for a single company with many brands to put out conflicting messages? Do the men not need the empowerment, or is this a different *kind* of empowerment rooted in base sexuality? Isn&#8217;t that perpetuating stereotypes?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ALL for messaging that empowers, inspires, and moves people in positive directions, and I do really like this campaign. I just have moments of pause realizing that many faces can be worn by a single company, even if some of them are the very essence of good (and others not so much).</p>
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		<title>By: chepchumba</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>chepchumba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow first of all let me start by saying that these are powerful videos that have helped restore my faith in the advertising industry. I have written alot about these issues on my blog http://chepchumba.wordpress.com and encouraged many people to seek alternative forms of media and also to critically engage with the media forms that they consume. I think that there is a definite hunger out there to see advertising that does not encourage sexism and misogyny and that is what I think the Dove Campaign has caught on to . I have always been torn in dismissing most of advertising because I didn&#039;t think that was a solution and I am glad to see videos like these and that you can critically engage an audience whilst selling a product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow first of all let me start by saying that these are powerful videos that have helped restore my faith in the advertising industry. I have written alot about these issues on my blog <a href="http://chepchumba.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://chepchumba.wordpress.com</a> and encouraged many people to seek alternative forms of media and also to critically engage with the media forms that they consume. I think that there is a definite hunger out there to see advertising that does not encourage sexism and misogyny and that is what I think the Dove Campaign has caught on to . I have always been torn in dismissing most of advertising because I didn&#8217;t think that was a solution and I am glad to see videos like these and that you can critically engage an audience whilst selling a product.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read a great book called the Body Project that dealt with similar issues. The book had some pictures of advertisements from the early 1900s to the present, and these ads illustrated how the media relies on women&#039;s aspirational nature to sell a product. Dove has done an excellent job at raising awareness about the media&#039;s often negative influence over women, and  the best (and most obvious) way to change this is to accurately portray women in the media and not encourage unrealistic stereotypes. Shouldn&#039;t be too hard, but it&#039;s taken way too long for us to come to this realization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a great book called the Body Project that dealt with similar issues. The book had some pictures of advertisements from the early 1900s to the present, and these ads illustrated how the media relies on women&#8217;s aspirational nature to sell a product. Dove has done an excellent job at raising awareness about the media&#8217;s often negative influence over women, and  the best (and most obvious) way to change this is to accurately portray women in the media and not encourage unrealistic stereotypes. Shouldn&#8217;t be too hard, but it&#8217;s taken way too long for us to come to this realization.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin Kalscheur</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristin Kalscheur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! Especially with the decline of consumerism we may see as the economic situation unfolds.  Targeting our sense of shared humanity rather than our insecurities will set a company/marketer/media entity apart like a dark horse in a herd of white unicorns...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! Especially with the decline of consumerism we may see as the economic situation unfolds.  Targeting our sense of shared humanity rather than our insecurities will set a company/marketer/media entity apart like a dark horse in a herd of white unicorns&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Meis</title>
		<link>http://www.davidwmullen.com/2008/10/07/marketing-for-good/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Meis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, had a good friend that worked on this campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, had a good friend that worked on this campaign.</p>
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